This CO2 rifle uses an 88-gram AirSource cartridge, giving you about 200-250 shots before you have to change cartridges. The fiber-optic sights will help you acquire your target, but feel free to mount a scope on the 11mm dovetail rail. (Umarex also makes a dovetail-to-Weaver mount) The checkering on the pistol grip and forearm will help you get a good grip while you plow shot after shot from this 8-shot repeater. This gun is everything you ever hoped for in a CO2 repeater!
The fun never stops with this rifle! Ideal for plinking, shooting targets and spinners.
Hammerli/RWS is known for standing behind their guns, and their warranty has always been viewed as the best in the business. Made by Umarex for RWS.
I decided at my ripe old age to pursue one of my bucket list things, and that is target shooting. I purchased this because I could shoot without having to cock a lever or handle. I don't have the strength to constantly be doing that.
I like the fact you can get over 200 shots from one 88 gram CO2 cartridge. It was very easy to install the CO2 cartridge.
Shooting it is so easy. You just pop in the pellet magazine, throw the locking mechanism, throw the bolt, release the safety, and squeeze the trigger. I like the fact that the safety is engaged after each bolt cocking. It helps prevent an inadvertent shot while getting set on the target.
I am shooting bench rest, at 25 yards, using 10 meter targets. For the most part, I am hitting inside the outer target ring about 40 percent of the time, and in the black about 60 percent of the time.
At age 69. my skills are not like they were when in my 30's. My aim tends to wander in bigger circles than back then.
From what I have read and experienced, this CO2 rifle is pretty accurate. I am sure that with more experience, my shot groups will improve.
I can't really evaluate all the technical parts of the rifle. I just don't have the experience. The trigger seems fine for me. It seems easy to squeeze, unlike what I remember of some powder burners that required a heft squeeze. The one thing I am disappointed is the stock. I wish it had some kind of adjustable cheek piece. I also wish it had the two different types of scope mounts. Since I have Picatinny scope rings, I had to purchase an adapter which has caused my scope to be higher than desired. Of course, that can be fixed by purchasing different scope rings.
perfect with these pellets. No jams. When cycling bolt, make sure you bring it back all the way to
ensure rifle is cocked, If it wants to spring forward you havent got it cocked yet. The bolt is a little
stiff but it should smooth out with use. Load mags by pushing in until oring catches pellet around waist
Airgun Depot was also awesome. The gun shipped extremely fast and arrived before its expected time. UPS didn't show until 8 or so and I was pacing the house anxiously awaiting the arrival of my new toy. I was not let down.
The gun feels excellent to hold and aim and you feel you can hit your target at any distance. This gun thinks it is an FX Impact. Just mount a good scope sight in your target at about 35-40 yds wait till outside temperature hits 80-85* F and there is no way you can miss. Only downside is its low 8-9 ft lbs of energy to kill sparrows and chipmunks but probably not squirrels.
When warmer temperatures rise to 80-85*F as it is in the warm months of July and August and light winds I know I can confidently take out sparrows and chipmunks at up to 40 yds with this rifle. All you need to do is stock up on plenty of 88g co2 canisters and fire away and mostly likely you will be bagging pounds of chipmunks and sparrows.
Be sure to buy the 12gram C02 adapter tube so you can be ready to shoot anytime ! I also purchased the compensator and put tape over the holes as talked
about on YouTube ,the neighbors cant hear a thing .... very quite .
Lastly, a shout out to John, who did a great "Under Pressure" video on the Hammerli. Sorry you lost the shoot out!
Quarter Target - Breezy with Open sights (front rest only) @ 30 yards, JSB Diablo pellets, 225 shots total. Target includes sight adjustments. 16 shots at center of diamond. Last 8 shot group at bottom of center diamond. Notice that even after velocity drop off, groups are still pretty tight.
Dime Target - Breezy with Scoped (6x power, front rest only) @ 30 yards, JSB Diablo pellets, 32 shots so far. Target includes scope adjustments.
This one was a bundle, I didn`t get a scope with mine and this one was cheaper ... OH WELL
I notice there were complaints about pellets falling out of the magazine and about the magazine not indexing and allowing pellets to fall into the action. The rubber band can't grip some short pellets unless you seat each pellet into the magazine with a pellet seater (or ball point pen, or dowel or any object small enough to do the job your finger is to large for). This seats the pellet deep enough that the rubber band can hold it. The ONLY WAY I could duplicate Patsy's problem with the magazine not indexing and pellets falling from the bolt was if I did not push the magazine retaining lock forward to lock the magazine into the breech - operator error.
The rifle handles well. It is heavy compared to some others I have, but with a rest it is very stable. It's also seems quiet, even without quieting the muzzle even more with tape or heat shrink. The bolt is relatively easy to cock, but it does take a good pull and push to operate it. Once I started using the palm of my hand, it was fine. If you don't let it know who's boss, you will be rewarded with either an apparent jam or a misfire. It only happened a few times to me early in the game. My fault, I didn't cock it properly with enough authority.
I think it's pellet sensitive. That fault can be overcome easily but I think guns should eat up all pellets. The Ham would not allow me to cock it consistently with one of the Crosman round-nose pellets I used today which immediately put the pellet on my 'do not use' list for this gun. Loading the cartridge requires gently pushing of the pellets with a plastic pen tip until they sort of 'lock' into the clip. Not a big deal, but if you don't lock the pellets in you risk a jam if one falls out into the gun's action.
On the second set of cartridges I was tearing the bulls eyes out of the targets with the occasional flyer because I pulled the trigger instead of squeezing it. The gun will reward tight groups if you do your part consistently.
German engineering gets a good grade on this gun. All the parts fit, it looks nice, the clips slide right in and lock OK every time. Finicky pellets need to be watched. I have more RWS pellets on order.
Overall, I'd give the gun an A-. It has a personality. I'm happy to have it. It's nice quality and I'm glad I bought it. The Hammerli is an accurate gun, quality trigger, quality features, probably will be durable in the long run, and well-engineered. The Ham is heavy.
I would be remiss if I didn't mention the two QB78 rifles I have, one a 22, one a 17. These are also quality guns, bolt action, one pellet at a time loading. Accurate, maybe as good as the Ham even. Easy to handle. Weigh about the same or a bit less. Not pellet sensitive. Quality, adjustable triggers. Nice looking guns with wood stocks. And the best part... $112 DELIVERED from Air Gun Depot!
First thing you need to do is tear it down. Don't even bother to fire it out of the box nor put on a CO2 tank. Remove all the grease and lightly lube it with a light quality grease. Polish the valve hammer. It scrapes in the action housing. You'd think we'd get better for a German made rifle. Add three small orings inside the hammer where the spring sides in. This adds .2" preload on the spring to hit the valve harder. If want a two stage trigger now is the time, I think it's a 5/32 drill bit glued onto the trigger to hit the sear first.
Now you have a good rifle that fires 650fps to 700fps. If you want to save some $, get the 9oz bottle adapter. Pack the rear stock with foam since it's hollow. Now your ready to go.
- The rifle was really well designed. The bolt mechanism is intuitive and makes you fire a lot of pellets quickly and accurately. The weight of the gun is perfect. It doesn't feel like a toy (BECAUSE IT IS NOT A TOY, FAR FROM THAT, IT IS A GUN) and its not heavy to the point of bother.
- The refurbished version has an almost invisible "R" in the receiver, which I would never find out if I haven't read another review before the rifle arrive and, otherwise, is new fully functional rifle.
- I used Ai rsource co2 cartridge/Crosman pellets and has been working fine. The accuracy is as expected and the safety makes sure no accident will happen. The sight is really nice and I have tested between 10 and 50 m. It worked really well concerning small targets (not quarter size, but the size of a phone book). At 50 m I had a target of 2 x 3 feet and the top part was marked in white to give brighter reference. I shot under extreme conditions (54F, windy and 7am in a cloudy day with low light) and still could hit the target 100% despite been barely visible from that distance. The fact that all the pellets hit the bottom part means that I should adjust the sight for longer distances, not that the gun is inaccurate. I intend to purchase a scope for this gun despite loving its sight just to make my life easier to go from close to long distances and hit quarters.
- I REALLY recommend waiting the refurbished version and of 850 air magnum. This is the first time that I shoot anything and I am confident on my aim, so should you if you buy one of these...
I bought the Hammerli 850 for shooting starlings and black birds that come in flocks to overwhelm my bird feeders. I was using a 22 rifle with subsonic ammo, but felt it was too much for the job.
1. Some other reviews have complained about pellets falling out of the 8 pellet rotary clip. The Hammerli manual shows how to orient the clip and insert the pellets. The clip can be laid on a flat surface with the metal center facing up. The pellets are dropped in with the hollow portion facing up i.e. the back of the pellet, then just press them down with your thumb and the inside rubber holds them in place. They won' fall out, they won't hang up in the gun and the bolt action works fine, even if it is a little tight at first. Perhaps the rubber inside the clip is a recent design improvement.
2. Another review said to screw the CO2 cartridge in until it stops to get a tight seal, that is correct, but a bright Warning was included with my gun saying: "Screw the AirSource capsule into the valve thread until the end of the cap is pierced. Continue to turn until firmly tightened and then slacken by one quarter (1/4) of a turn in order to equalize tolerances between brands of CO2 cartridge."
3. The user manual must be read so you get the latest information for your weapon.
Gun looked BRAND NEW when I received it. After mounting a scope I started testing to see which pellet it preferred. I was amazed at how many types and weights that shot accurate from it. I still haven't decided which one the gun likes the best, (I tend to stick to premium pellets and NO alloys).
My one major complaint: prone to locking up in the heat. I have difficulty with the gun over 80 degrees in the backyard and that has soured my enjoyment of it. The easy fix is to install a slightly heftier spring to make certain that the gas gets released.
After only two months of use we had to send this gun back to the manufacturer because the bolt kept grabbing the pellets and dropping them into the trigger housing causing the gun not to operate. This is a major design flaw but Umarex\Hammerli does not cover it under their warranty. They call this an "operator error." The issue with this gun is that it is hard to tell when the magazine is lined up with the chamber. If it is not properly lined up the bolt can grab the pellet when you pull it back making the gun useless and in need of repair as the pellets will drop into the trigger housing. The cost for repair is $60 shipping (total both ways) and $54 for Umarex to fix the gun.
I was originally trying to avoid the 88gram deal, but this gun changed that. I like the bolt and the left handed hold of this rifle. Debri can get into the action, i dropped a pellet in it, and it wouldn't close till i discovered the problem. This gun shoots and works fine. I must say i like this gun better than any at this point. Still lookng for a better solution than 88gram though.
Maybe best airgun for money yet
Thank u AirgunDepot
The action and mechanical build exudes quality in all areas.
A couple minor complaints. The stock feels/sounds flimsy at the butt end and the magazines seem a little expensive for being plastic. I guess they are this new high tech composite but still, plastic is plastic.
I was so happy with this gun I purchased a second one.
I am very happy with this purchase. Before purchasing this gun I had trapped and relocated over 130 squirrels away from my Mom's bird feeders. It was a pain in the butt driving them over 5 miles away so that they would not find their way back, but more would just replace them.
Now I just sting them with RWS 850, and they have a new found respect for our front yard and my Mom's Bird feeders. And I am having FUN!!
Buy the scope as well, you will not be disappointed.
I had a better idea, did a lot of research, (reading reviews), over the past 4 months and made the decision to (A) purchase the RWS 850 AirMagnum .22 cal, (B) to buy it from Airgun Depot, both turned out to be great decisions. I ordered the gun with a CenterPoint Adventure 3-9x50mm scope, compensator, extra magazines, pellets, and cleaning pellets, (although the RWS manual doesnâ€™t recommend cleaning pellets). As most other reviews have noted all arrived on time packed very nicely and no damage.
Prior to my rifle arriving I borrowed a friends single shot pump .177-cal air rifle. Only a third of my shots where successful, if I missed on the first shot by the time I pumped and reloaded a pellet the squirrels had enough time to escape in a wheel chair not to mention my arm being worn out by all the pumping. When I did hit one of the little buggers it took 2 to 3 more hits to put â€˜em out of their misery.
So whatâ€™s the bottom line? I love the accuracy and power of this gun! I have now shot the little rats (with good PR) from 20 to 40 yds and if your aim is good itâ€™s one shot one kill. This comes from someone who has not fired a rifle for over 30 years. The capacity to fire rapidly with ease allows the ability to make more than one kill before the vermin run for the hills. This gun now has 11 kills in the first 4 days of arriving, which makes it more economical than the exterminatorâ€™s price.
I read complaints about the safety resetting after each shot, donâ€™t worry about it, your thump is sitting right on top of it and it works naturally with ease. I also have had no issues with the air canister cover. I did read how someone covered the compensator for additional quietness, which I did using the cardboard from a shipping tape roll, and it does make it very neighbor friendly. I also like the CenterPoint scope no doubt increasing my ability to make use of one shot. I really like the red-green illumination. Depending on the background color of what you are shooting at it makes it easier to put the crosshairs right on your target.
Hope this helps someone not spend as much time as I did making a decision. If itâ€™s a co2 airgun youâ€™re looking for look no more, and look nowhere else, you wonâ€™t find it for less and AGD provided great service.
25 yards, using beeman silver bear pellets can group pellets hitting each other standing braced against a tree. Used it today squirell hunting. Took
one at 20 yards through the heart having to shoot
left handed. This rifle is a must have for any serious
plinker, target shooter or hunter. Just remember to
only use flat, round nose or hollow point pellets.
Groups well with other brand pellets also. Gun is
also very quiet and balanced well. The sales reps
at airgundepot are so nice.
Second, product performed as advertised. The airmagnum exceeded my expectation. I've been around airguns since age 8 and i'm 40 now. It's accurate, powerful, fun to shoot, and reloads fast. Mounted on a Winchester 3-9x scope, it is extremely accurate.
Overall, i would definitely reccommend purchasing this product from airgundepot on-line.
james t. liu
attorney at law
0.177Caliber 0.177 CalVelocity 754 fpsLoudness 3-Medium
0.22Caliber 0.22 CalVelocity 650 fpsLoudness 3-Medium
0.177Caliber 0.177 CalVelocity 760 fpsLoudness MediumMag Capacity 8 rounds
0.22Caliber 0.22 CalVelocity 655 fpsLoudness MediumMag Capacity 8 rounds