Hatsan 87 QE Vortex Air Rifle Features
- Vortex gas-piston powerplant
- Integral silencer reduces report by 50%!
- Quattro 2-stage adjustable match trigger
- 11mm optics rail with scope stop
- Fixed red TruGlo fiber optic front sight
- Fully adjustable green TruGlo fiber optic rear sight
- Anti-beartrap mechanism
- Ambidextrous synthetic stock
- Vertically adjustable comb
- Checkered grip and forearm
- SAS (shock absorber system) reduces vibration
- 7.40 lbs (gun only; scope and mount will add about 1.50 lbs.)
- Includes 3-9x32 Optima scope and mount
Here are the benefits of a Vortex gas-piston powerplant over a coiled metal mainspring
- Smoother cocking
- Smoother shooting
- No spring torque
- No spring fatigue- even if you leave it cocked for hours
- Functions perfectly in cold weather
- Lasts longer than a metal spring
The airgun arrived neatly boxed, and plastic wrapped (a little impressed) After wiping off the excess shipping oil, and mounting the included scope I got it sighted in despite the cheap scope. To my surprise, this rifle is absolutely accurate!! I can put crossman premiers all in the same slightly ragged hole at 25yds. At 45 yds the hole is dime sized. that's plenty accurate for me!
I shot two skunks the other night out near the chicken house, both were probably 10lbs apiece. I cleanly dipatched each with one shot each from about 40 yards! If this rifle ever wears out, I'll quickly order another one.
9 shots later, I had one big hole in the target where the rest of my shots followed the first through the same hole. Extraordinary! And I'm not much of a shot, either.
After attaching an aftermarket scope (UTG Bug Buster) I was hitting bull after bull from a rest at 10 yards (dialing in the scope). I know, at 10 yards I SHOULD be hitting all bulls, but this gun is so accurate I was just punching through the same hole time after time. Off-hand here, I would recommend a longer scope than the Bug Buster. I have a big-azz head and I have to climb up the stock to get a good sight picture with this scope. Great scope, but short! I love gun and scope, but think I may have to get a different scope to really make this gun sing an opus.
Its pretty heavy to shoot off-hand, and the cocking strength is a damn sight stronger than either my Gamo Silent Cat .177 (understandable) or my Beeman .22, but its worth it. Its hard to pull off the bull with this rifle, and the recoil is noticeably less than the Beeman. So is the noise level. I don't have a chrony or a decibel reader, but I am shooting this gun in my garage and it is just a little louder than the cap pistol I banged around with when I was a kid; and it goes through 1 1/4" of plywood with Benjamin 14.3 gram cone head pellets.
THE MOST IMPORTANT detail I want to lay on you is the beautiful trigger on this gun. Cock it, aim it, safety off, and don't touch the trigger until you mean to shoot. I mean it! A small squeeze and the pellet is on its way to the bullseye. Make sure you are ready to shoot before you flick off the safety! And this is out-of-the-box, I haven't (and won't) touched the trigger adjustment at all.
I already mentioned the iron sights, but I want to impress upon you the quality of these sights. It was imperative to me to have good iron sights on my gun in case I have scope trouble. The sights on this are easy to pick up and aim with, and seem to be sighted in to 15 yards out of the box. An incredible rifle for the price, and though I haven't shot any in the $300 range, it is illogical to me that they could be much better (unless they sent a a laser beam to scythe through the squirrel population of Tattoine).
It is an attractive gun, too. Black on black, heavy looking (I like a substantial looking and feeling gun, and this one fills the bill) and rubber butt protector.
Power. Beauty. Quiet. Accurate. What more do you want, homey?
I am only writing this review since this model is new and there are not that many review.
Part 1 I spent a fun 2 weeks reading and watching videos to learn all I could about air guns and trying to find one I would enjoy.
My short list:
Diana RWS 34: The most expensive of the group but everyone seems to have one in their collection.
Hatsan 87 QE Vortex Air Rifle with Scope: German steel. Fit and finish rated high. Adjustable trigger. Sound reducing system.
Benjamin Trail NP XP2: Rated as a good strong accurate gun
Browning Leverage Air Rifle: Not a break barrel but accurate. Lever under barrel for cocking.
I decided this is what I wanted.
Self contain: That means springer or gas-piston. Later, I decided on Gas-piston as it can be fired without pelt and not be damage, springer can be damage. I thought the gas-piston could be left cock but Hatsan 87 manual say not so.
Cost: Under $300 ( this part was easy, the wife set this price limit.)
Quality: Good to high. Kind of thinking not from China.
Loudness: Low as it would be shot in the basement, maybe the backyard.
Caliber: .22. Old man finger would handle this size better. Than .177
Cocking: I was guessing that 30lbs would be my limit and the max I could do for an hour of shooting.
Weight: 7.5 lbs gun and another 1.5 lbs for scope. 9 lbs max total.
Pelt speed: around 800fps for lead .22 pelts
Sight on barrel so if scope failed, I could still use gun.
Diana and Browning are springer.
The Benjamin trail does not have sight on the barrel.
Hatsan 87 QE Vortex Air Rifle with Scope: Hatsan used German steel and fit and finish were rated high.
High end trigger. New sound reducing system. Gas-piston. Low price.
Part 2 Review: Ordered the Hatsan 87 from http://www.airgundepot.com/ Could not find it with out scope.
5 Star Out of the box, first impression: Gun was shipped in a plastic sleeve, sealed at both ends. There were 3 Hex Keys to attach the scope and adjust the trigger and paper work. Scope wrap in bubble wrap.
5 Star Fit and finish: The gun looked good. The machining was smooth. The barrel hinge was tight. Cocking smooth. Pelts went into barrel easily.
5 Star Cocking force: Hard to measure, but less than 30 lbs more then 25 lbs, When I measured got 28lbs and 29lbs a lot but a couple times 26lbs.
1 Star Adjustable Trigger: It could not be adjusted. It was 5lbs pull. Adjusting the pull force screw, did not change the pull force. The pull length screw did not adjust either. I replaced the pull force screw with a longer screw. When I was turning the longer screw in, the gun went off. CAUTION When I was turning the longer screw in, the gun went off. I backed off the screw and had less then 0.5 lbs trigger pull. Lets call it 0.5 lbs to 5 lbs range of adjustment. With the trigger adjustable, it is now a 5 Star trigger.
1 Star Loudness: I do not have a db meter, but it is loud. I called Air Gun Depot asking if I could return the gun for this reason and was told to fill out the form on their site for an RMA. I also ask what other guns I should be looking at, they pointed me to one of the quietest they knew about and it was rated at 84 db. After doing more research, on the net. I found that 84db is still not quiet. I decided to keep the Hatsan 87. If I fired this gun more then a couple times in the back yard I think the cops would be called. It does not appear that there is a quiet springer or gas-piston on the market. I am guessing this gun is 90db.
1 Star Scope: I am rating this scope on this gun. I rated 1 star because it would not focus down to 20 feet and parallax was bad at close distance. At farther distance it did not seem like a bad scope. I am thinking this scope is usable 35ft to Inf. Do rabbit know they have to stay more then 35 ft from the gun? I now know from looking at scope for air guns, that more then half will not focus under 30 feet. I must be missing something.
No Rating Recoil: It had some, I would call it low.
5 Star Accuracy: Old man that has not fired a gun in 50 years and with fuzzy scope at 25 feet could get 1 inch groups. I am sure other could get a lot better with good scope.
5 Star Seller: Air Gun Depot. I was able to reach them by phone. Placed order late afternoon and the gun was shipped the next day. Packaging was good. They were helpful on phone.
Conclusion: If I could have gotten this rifle without the scope and the trigger had the right screws. I would have rated 4.5 Stars, I am taking 1/2 star for it being too loud. After all it is describe as coming with a new sound reducing system. I would buy again but try to get Air Gun Depot to keep the scope and give me a credit toward a different scope.
0.177Caliber 0.177 CalVelocity 1000 fpsLoudness 3-Medium
0.22Caliber 0.22 CalVelocity 800 fpsLoudness 3-Medium
0.25Caliber 0.25 CalVelocity 650 fpsLoudness 3-Medium